CELTIC WRITERS GROUP
The Celtic Writers Group
are a committed group of hard core Celtic supporters who come from a broad
background of our support. The Group are not afraid to challenge those who
attack our club and should be seen as a breath of fresh air enabling the Celtic
support to discuss and debate the issues that effect us and what we hold dear as
Celtic fans. The CSA are happy to give the Celtic Writers Group this platform to
put forward their ideas and we would welcome any opinions from within the Celtic
family in an effort not to stifle debate but to encourage it.
Packaging
our history
: selling our soul?
In its
beginning, Celtic provided money to feed the poor in the immediate vacinity of
the east end of Glasgow and became a symbol for Irish Catholics in the west of
Scotland. The club helped give a community self-respect and encouraged them to
hold our heads up amidst much deprivation, degradation and hostility.
The Irish responded by making Celtic part of their very being. Today,
songs sung by the Celtic support like ‘The Fields of Athenry’ and ‘Let the
People Sing’ are reminders of the roots and the identity of Celtic and its
dedicated fans.
But Celtic
has never been closed minded. We
have always been an open club and never discriminated against non-Irish Catholic
players or fans just because they weren’t the same as us – whatever that
might mean? Celtic has always been the standard bearer for Irish Catholic
immigrants in Scotland but those not of that background have always been welcome
to support us.
However,
a question has been emerging since the days of Mr McCann. Are some Celts
embarrassed about our Irish and Catholic identities?
These
are the primary identities of our club and the vast majority of the support,
although it must be recognised that Celtic and its fans aren’t mainly Catholic
in the sense that we’re part of the institutional Church nor are we Irish in
the sense that we are the same as the Irish who have been born and brought up in
Ireland.
Have such critics no sense of history (unless its written to suit themselves)? The media, politicians, representatives of other football clubs, Scotland’s football authorities, etc: they’ve all had a go at us. Our songs, our symbols, our flags, our colours, our affinities and allegiances to Ireland. In fact, even the schools many of us attended. The list is endless. Its been going on since our club was born. The fact that we’re even here seems unacceptable.
Do
we have to CHANGE the nature and identities of Celtic and its fans to be
accepted? Do Celtic fans require to
change one hundred years of identity to suit new Celtic people who don’t like
some of the ‘old’ ways and prefer some ‘new’ ones instead? Maybe they
even think they can give the traditional Celtic fans (the offspring of those the
club was founded for) a bit of a
concession? That concession goes
along the line of ‘you don’t have to forget Ireland: you can sing a few
(acceptable) songs, even fly your flag now and again (at most grounds), and you
will be ‘allowed’ to refer to the ‘proud origins’ of your club, your
families and community. But
keep it to ‘heritage’. ‘Keep
it plastic’.
The
ideal scenario might be that Celtic’s Catholic identity disappears along with
the rest of Christianity in Scotland and the club and the fan’s Irishness are
constructed something similar to an Irish theme bar. Even Scotland accepts Irish theme bars now. Football club’s
these days have to work hard to stand out a little and if there’s an Irish
diaspora out there all the better. Package
the club’s identity and sell it under the banner of ‘heritage’.
Manchester United are fast becoming nothing more than a vehicle for
making money. Why not us too?
Leprechauns are loved the world over, ‘surely they are, surely, begorrah’.
Everbody likes a pint of stout.
Get real. Irish Catholics founded Celtic, played for Celtic and
supported Celtic. The grand
children and great grand children of this community in Scotland represent the
very heart and soul of Celtic. Without
this recognition and these identities Celtic isn’t Celtic but a new creation
wearing Celtic’s green and white hoops.
We’ve
inherited something unique in Scotland and amongst the Irish worldwide.
The space in my life that is Celtic is where I can be Irish and express
this through standing shoulder to shoulder with friends and relations in the
face of adversity. That’s the way it always has been. If Celtic changes then
our very being is changed, our heart and soul are sold off and only remembered
as green coloured packages to be bought in the many Celtic Shops for Celtic Plc.
For
those who wish to change us, I say, ‘go and support another club’, ‘go and
work for another club’. There’s
plenty in Scotland that have a different history and identity to us.
I have no problem with them. I
have no problem with you; English, Brazilian, Chinese, British, Protestant,
Atheist, Agnostic, proud to wear a kilt, like to sing Greensleeves, or a
supporter of rampant capitalism. I
don’t believe in any kind of pure identity – that’s cultural facism.
If you come to our club your
welcome. But surely those
identities are for outside of the Celtic environment?
It seems odd that such people might want to change us?
Why us? Why not Partick
Thistle, Liverpool or Barcelona? Let’s
change ‘Catalan’ Barcelona. Now
wouldn’t that be a good idea? Have
Celtic and its fans an identity you don’t like?
I
know our club isn’t about one identity but it isn’t about a thousand and one
identities either. I do know that since day one and in terms of the very
rationale of why we exist, Irish and Catholic have had a special meaning to
Celtic and its fans that they simply don’t for any other football club. That makes Celtic unique.
The
ideals and dreams of Celtic’s founders and first supporters should not be
thrown-away for some false idea of Celtic being a club for all and sundry.
What club is? Barcelona (Catalans)? Real
Sociedad (Basques)? Liverpool (Scouse working class)?
St Pauli (leftist anti-racist and anti-facists)?
Maybe Man Utd in the interests of a fast buck?
No, even at Man Utd some supporters are fighting against the money mad
demons. This is our club.
Our grandfathers and great grandfathers have given us something to be
proud of. Our traditions, heritage
and identity are not for sale. At least not for the real supporters of Celtic.
In
1887/88 our community celebrated its roots, heritage and identity by giving
birth to Celtic Football Club. In
1967 this immigrant community in Scotland gained the respect of the football
world by winning the world’s premier club trophy.
In 1988 we celebrated these facts with a wonderful double. Hopefully this community, and those who wish to share in our
teams glories regardless of background, have
many more celebrations to come. We
don’t need to deny our identity, suit the whims of fashion or dilute our rich
traditions because some of our support or employees have decided to sell our
soul. Sell your own soul, not mine.
Celtic belongs to us and those who for 90 minutes want to share something
with us.
Sectarianism:
‘Scotland’s Shame’ or Scotland’s blame game?
Recently, a
committee of the Scottish Executive heard representations from various people,
including the Assistant Chief Constable of Strathclyde Police, on the issue of
whether sectarianism should be considered as an additional motivation or
aggravation for assault charges. It
was proposed that such offences should be separately considered and penalised.
I also heard last week that Sandra White MSP now wants pubs which are
‘sectarian’ to be refused licences.
As I listened to the various worthies discussing this very topical issue,
two unanswered questions began to bother me greatly.
First, what do they actually mean by sectarianism?
Indeed Roseanna Cunningham the SNP MSP (who has a legal background)
raised this very question in terms of how any proposed legislation should be
framed. The second question was, if
we don’t actually record these figures now (since there is currently no
separate offence), on what do groups like Nil by Mouth base their assertions
that this is an important and growing problem.
What are they referring to?
If the thing
they’re talking about is the level of violent crimes which are reported after
football matches, then do we not need to look at the figures a bit more closely?
What are the average levels of assaults/disturbances on a Saturday night
throughout the towns and cities of Scotland?
How do these vary in relation to whether there has been a football match
or are they relevant to which teams are playing?
Are they a weekday phenomenon or is it just at weekends that
‘sectarians’ come out to play? Who
are the main perpetrators and victims of these crimes?
Is an incident between rival fans only sectarian if it involves Celtic
and/or Rangers? Is any incident
involving Celtic or Rangers fans sectarian by definition?
I don’t know the answers to all of these questions but if I was running
a credible campaign like Nil by Mouth aspire to I would expect to be able to
answer them. Instead, all we hear
from Nil by Mouth and their cheerleaders is how we should start throwing people
out of football grounds because we don’t like what they sing.
There
appears to be now a consensus in public debate that sectarianism is a major
problem; that we all know what it means, that is it inextricably linked to
football in general and the Old Firm in particular, and that it is even-handed
in its effects. However, before we
start trying to lock people up, refuse them the liquor licenses which provide
their livelihood, or deprive them of their right to watch the football team of
their choice, should we not have some intelligent discussion, and resolution, of
these questions? The unquestioned
and, it almost appears, unquestionable campaign against ‘sectarianism’ which
is being conducted by everyone from Jack McConnell (‘Old Firm Bigots should be
Banned for Life says Jack’) to Donald Gorrie to Sandra White to Glasgow City
Council to Nil by Mouth is, ironically, being conducted in such an atmosphere of
intolerance that most people are frightened to do anything other than agree with
it on the grounds that to question it in any way leaves them open to being
branded a bigot themselves. Such
conformity does Scottish society no good whatsoever. So much for the new Scotland.
So
let’s get back to definitions. To
start the debate here are some observations.
Singing about being ‘up to your knees in Fenian blood’ is sectarian;
singing ‘God Save the Queen and Rule Britannia is not.
These songs express political views of unionism and conservatism with
which I don’t agree and which I find repulsive, but they cannot be said to be
sectarian. I do not agree with
Sandra White MSP that pubs which display pictures of known members of loyalist
organisations are, by definition, encouraging ‘sectarianism’.
They may well be, but not because they support the politics of loyalism.
Any songs which are anti-Protestant are sectarian – I cannot offer an
example here because I have not heard any songs which could be interpreted that
way sung at Celtic Park in many a long year.
Any songs which express support for Irish Republicanism are not
sectarian. I understand that they
express political views which some or many people do not agree: but they are not
sectarian.
The
IRA is an organisation (and it has changed in numerous ways over the decades)
which many people detest. However, there are many other people who support the
right of people to arm themselves when democratic means are denied them and who
believe that this is the history of British-Irish relations. Again, I cannot agree that having a juke box which contains
songs about Bobby Sands is sectarian in any way.
Ms White may not like it, or agree with it, but Bobby Sands is regarded
by many thousands of people in many countries as an outstandingly brave and
honourable man. He was an elected
member of the British Parliament and there are numerous streets and avenues
called after him across the globe. The
reasonable and valid argument that people are entitled to peacefully hold
political views regardless of how unpopular they might be seems to be getting
lost in all of this. The message
appears to be, ‘we are only prepared to tolerate you if you keep your views to
yourself’.
I have some
sympathy with the view that football grounds are not the best arena for
displaying political solidarity with any cause and am not giving to singing
about anything other than Celtic at most games.
However, it is undoubtedly fact that football matches and other sporting
occasions have been used many times and in many countries to show political
solidarity and dissension: the
clenched fist display of the black American athletes at the 1968 Mexico Olympics
in support of Black Power, the red cards Celtic fans showed Thatcher on her
visit to the Scottish Cup Final in 1988, more recently, during the World Cup it
was reported by the BBC that ‘football
(in Iran) has definitely become a vehicle for thinly-disguised social and even
political protest against their (the Ayatolla’s) rule’. What about our own
club custodians displaying recruiting posters for the British Army inside Celtic
Park in the early 1990s?
Also,
what about the overtly political acts which are carried out at football grounds
on a regular basis? We have the
flying of the Union Jack in a country in which according to respected and
comprehensive surveys only a small proportion of the population regard
themselves as British first and foremost. We
have the selective and highly controversial basis upon which we hold minutes’
silences. Is asking Celtic fans to
stand in silence to show respect to a member of the British royal family not a
political act? Is showing respect
for the innocent American victims of mass murder but not the innocent
Iraqi/Iranian/Kosovan/Chilean/Nicaraguan/ (insert country of choice) victims of
American or American-sponsored mass murder not a political act?
Don’t even mention Ireland.
I,
and many others, am happy to engage in a debate about what the appropriate
behaviour should be at football matches or any other public place, but lets have
a some serious debate about what it is that ‘sectarianism’ really is and
lets not get worked up into a frenzy about new and bigger penalties for offences
which we have yet to define.
Written
by a member of ‘The Celtic Writer’s Group’
‘Celtic
FC are an open club’:
I thought we knew that?
Since the days of
Fergus McCann and the various people who have been employed at Celtic ever since
(there’s been so many), many of Celtic’s ‘long term supporters’ have
been asking a number of questions about the identity and history of our cultural
heartland. Take the phrase ‘Celtic are an open club’ that has been
used with some regularity by numerous of the club’s spokespersons in this
period. In some ways the question
might be asked as to whether this line of thinking is in actual fact taking on
board the traditional ‘hostile to all things Celtic’ agenda of the Scottish
media.
For many 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation Irish in Scotland (the traditional backbone of the club and indeed the reason why the club exists in the first place), they have long been on their back foot with regards their Irish identity. So much so that some of them deny this identity and even talk about it as something that happened long ago and has no relevance to them now.
Some
people in Scotland clearly do not understand that when people settle in a
country then they bring with them different ways, a different culture and
different ideas about a range of things. The Scots did this when they went to
Canada and Australia in such big numbers. They often have different historical
and political interpretations, a different religion as well as a range of songs
and music that mean something to them but not to the wider, general and more
indigenous population.
Our
difference seems to be a problem. One
of the things that has in fact made us different in Scotland is that we have
been far less likely to discriminate against people not of the Catholic faith or
from an Irish background. Some
instances are likely but it doesn’t characterise us.
That’s
why I get confused when I hear people talk of Celtic being an ‘Open Club’. We already know that.
That’s the way we were brought up to see the club.
Sure the club has largely been the representatives on the field of play
for the Irish and their offspring in Scotland, but not exclusively.
John
Thompson, Danny McGrain, Kenny Dalglish are only a few of the stars of our club
that we adore as footballers: all Protestants.
Our greatest manager ever: Jock Stein a Protestant. The Lisbon Lions had five Protestants in the side.
Some of these were even voted recently in the greatest ever Celtic side.
By who? Celtic supporters.
We’ve
even had Alfie Conn, who was hardly liked when he played for Rangers but
instantly taken to when he became a Celtic player courtesy of big Jock.
For several years we have had players from all over Europe and without
qualification have welcomed them. We
now have a chief executive who is not from the same ethnic and religious
background as the majority of the Celtic support. ‘Big deal’. I
have never heard anyone say he shouldn’t be here because, ‘he’s not one of
us’. Everyone is one of us when
they are ‘Celtic minded’ to use that phrase so disliked by elements of the
media. That’s the way we have
always been. We don’t need to be
reminded of that. Or, is there
another agenda at play?
Sure being Catholic
has always had a particular relevance at Celtic.
After all, we were founded as an Irish Catholic institution by people who
settled in this country. They built
the stadium, played for the club and supported the team – their offspring
still do. Have we got to run away from these facts?
Then again, many of us
know that even making the sign of the cross in public in
Scotland can instigate uproar. Maybe
this is all something to do with the society we live in and the special
circumstances that we experience? I
don’t have anything against Protestants.
Why the hostility against my kind and me?
Or am I just paranoid?
Being
or becoming Celtic minded is all I’ve ever bothered about when it comes to
those who should be proud to represent our
club on the field or in the respective offices.
There
are a number of people, Protestants, atheists and God knows what support our
club. Many of them come along for a
variety of reasons. They’re
welcome. Long may it continue.
However, regarding a
‘possible’ agenda. I’m not
about to stop seeing Celtic as something intrinsic to my being a member of an
immigrant community in Scotland that happens to have a different faith from the
majority. In fact, most of the
majority doesn’t have a faith anymore.
‘Celtic
is an open club’. Yes,
and its us, the support, that makes it that way. That’s what most of us were taught at home and at school:
that is the schools that the media also keep telling us are causing problems.
Funny that: our team and our schools. Oh! I nearly forgot that flag many of us have a cultural alliegance to as well.
To
be open, to be kind and hospitable and to hold out our hand to the stranger:
that’s what I remember being taught and that’s what I try to teach my
children. Some of us fail in that
task. But most do a reasonable job.
We are an open club.
You better believe it if you really know the history.
This
article has been written by a member of the ‘Celtic Writers Group’.
Cast
your mind back to Celtic’s recent victory over Hearts at Tynecastle. What do you remember? In my opinion the Celtic team that day
produced a fantastic display of football that would have seen them match any
team in Britain. Probably our best display of the season so far.
Given the quality of football produced how did the Monday morning
headlines greet us?
Was
there any attempt to praise us for the style of football that will bring fans
back to the game? The answer was of course NO. Yet again our friends in the
Scottish media ignored the football and instead launched yet another attack on
the Celtic support. Celtic fans displayed provocative “symbols of hate” and
continue to chant “sectarian bile” said the reports in the hostile media.
So
what exactly are the provocative symbols referred to, what do they believe to be
sectarian chants and why do they cause so much discomfort not only to the press
but to members of the population up and down the country?
Well,
a prominent newspaper described one of the
provocative symbols as the Irish tri-colour and was sadly supported in that
assertion by Jack McConnell, the First Minister of Scotland. What chance do we
have when the First Minister makes such an ill-thought contribution to such a
sensitive issue? I wonder how his partners in the Euro 2008 bid reacted to his
comments.
The
sectarian bile was described as the singing of Irish Rebel songs.
I wonder what ‘his’ friends in Ireland would have thought?
These might include Irish Premier Bertie Aherne?
Last June both of them sat under the Irish tri-colour and listened to a
piper play an Irish rebel song, The West’s Awake, as they witnessed the
unveiling of the Carfin monument to the victims of the Great Irish Famine.
It
is surely, a sad reflection on Scottish Society that the flying of the flag of a
neighbouring friendly country should cause so much concern. This is the flag of
our community. The community who were responsible for Celtic’s formation, the
community who have contributed to the Celtic success story for 114 years, the
community who continue to back one of the finest sporting institutions in the
world. Our flag, a symbol of our history, our identity and our culture. Why
should people be offended or threatened by it? I do not feel threatened or
offended when fans of other clubs fly their flags be it the Union flag, the Lion
Rampant, St. George’s cross etc. Why the consternation caused by the Tricolour?
Why attack our cultural symbols – constantly?
Also
the singing of “Irish Rebel Songs” has been an established act of the Celtic
support since its inception. You
would realise this if you ‘only knew the history’.
The songs are sung in recognition of great heroes and proud moments in
the history of Ireland, the land of our birth or of our forefather’s
birthplace, the land that can mean so much to the Irish community in Scotland
and beyond. The community from
which Celtic has always derived the majority of its support. The songs celebrate
this fact, nothing more. They
should not be seen as a threat, or indeed corrupted and used as an attempt to
wind anyone up. Why can’t people accept that?
Getting
back to the game at Tyncastle and the trouble surrounding it I think it is
worthwhile examining the facts. Firstly, over the last few seasons there seems
to be an increasing hostility towards the Celtic support from a minority of the
Hearts fans. This has created an atmosphere that is intimidatory and
unwelcoming. The hostility seems to come from the section of the home support
that is seated nearest the Celtic fans. It manifests itself in various forms
from Nazi salutes and anti-Catholic and anti-Irish vocal abuse to the more
sinister attempts to confront the Celtic support in a physical challenge.
I
understand that the Hearts security personnel have been aware for some time of
an attempt by the BNP to infiltrate their support. This being the case why does
it always seem to be the same people who cause the trouble whenever we visit
their stadium and why have the authorities failed to address this issue. I no
longer feel that Tynecastle offers a safe, friendly environment for my family
and as such, I will not be returning with my children.
In
all of the circumstances I believe the Celtic support that day showed great
restraint in the face of extreme provocation. I think we should always show this
restraint. Is it too much to ask
that the media examine these facts and report it as it was? Alas it would appear
yes, as it is to easy for them to pander to the popular view that we are just
sectarian hooligans and contributed to the crowd trouble. The truth is that day
that, as is so often the case, the Celtic support were again the victims of
sectarianism not the perpetrators. However,
let’s not let the facts get in the way of a good story eh!